I was sent an internal CBP memo requiring riot and crowd control training, and less lethal chemical munitions certification for all officers just ten days before the murder of Alex Pretti.
This is just another way of skirting around the issue of having insurrectionists in the ranks of Ice Agents!!What really got me was the Bear Spray!! One of the items used at the Jan. 6 Capitol Take-Over!! Trump put these folks in as High Paid Gangster Private army Gestapo types!! His own private army!!
Training is small part of problem, real problem is character. These thugs are not vetted, for all I know they could have felony records, or past excessive force issues. We're in the dark, where they want us.
Dems need to demand a list of agents and go through their own vetting. No funding or pay until the vetting process is complete. Impeach Kristie. Release the Epstein files.
I cannot watch this. My mind is not trained to watch violence but my heart is out every fucking weekend or during the day protesting with a bunch of like-minded folks. CALL YOUR SENATORS TOMORROW AND TELL THEM NO $$$ goes to DHS and/or ICE! Write emails too. They have to know we are upset and angry!
Thank you, for the article, Allison, and, Medias Touch, Taco Trump go copulate yourself, and Ice , you can’t alter, the execution, of this kind hearted gentleman, who was a fine nurse, for the Department of Veterans Affairs. Please subscribe to, The Breakdown, and, Medias Touch.
all the training in the world isn't going to change a thing with these fascist thug murderers....the only thing that will solve this horror show is to disband, abolish, completely remove the DHS and all it's departments and impeach them all and tri them for their crimes....then develop and create a functioning honest and humane Dept of Immigration that works for people coming into the country.... for a path to citizenship.....ICE OUT !!! ....RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES !!!!
These thugs have had no training and they are supposed to have training what happened this cannot be swept under the rug by this administration it is as just it is worse than the Epstein files this is a murder by this administration
Besides encouraging people to call their Representatives and tell them how we feel, maybe we could all send a note or call Governor Walz and tell him “we see him” and we have his back.
The loss this man has been through this past year is pretty heavy. The shootings injuring two and killing two of his State lawmakers by a deranged maga. The attacks by that orangepos on his son, his reputation, and his honor. The bogus fraud allegations and people driving by yelling R word at his son. Now the invasion of his cities, kidnappings and deaths of his citizens. Just a thought
There’s reporting that the gray coated (ha!) thug who disarmed Alex either accidentally or as a means of incitement, discharged the gun while he was pointing it down and running away. For health reasons, I can no longer watch these videos. But if someone wants to slow it down and see if there’s any evidence of discharge in the video, might be worth it?
Thanks Lana for putting that into words - I wanted to share the same interest after watching the video where the person mentioned that the first shot may have been from the gun removed from Alex by the guy in the grey coat, whether by accident or on purpose. I also wondered if the first shot may have been accidental because these agents seem so incompetent. It reminded me of a police shooting I heard outside my window in that there was a single shot followed by a volley or cascade of shots. Basically, four police officers shot and killed an officer duty police officer who was fighting with a homeless man wielding a hatchet. When they saw the officer with his weapon there was one shot from one officer, it seemed, and then they all unloaded it seemed. Anyway, it made me think of that, in the sense that one gunfire shot precipitated a volley of gunfire.
Sorry, hard for me to type on this small I13 phone. I meant off duty police officer was shot and killed by other police because they didn’t know he was a cop because he was a rookie who jumped out of his vehicle to break up a fight and didn’t have his badge around his neck so when police saw the gun they opened fire.
I would be surprised if it’s the first or even 12th time that an incident of police fire has unraveled exactly like that. I think I’ve heard of a few at least. It’s such a giant loss for nothing. For trying to help, in both circumstances. This one hit me hard. It helps to put it in words. Thanks for doing that too! ❤️🩹
At this point I wouldn’t put anything past them. But I am compelled to remember a phrase “never attribute to malice, that which can easily be attributed to incompetence.”.
Then what do we do when they’re malicious AND incompetent?😐
The amount of training they receive will mean nothing as long as the culture of "us against them" exists and is encouraged by Trump. As long as his spokespeople are willing to lie and obfuscate every rotten thing his private army does, they will continue to murder, knowing there will be no consequences. I find myself hoping the dems shut down the govt. again over funding these monsters!
I need help understanding a few things about DHS and ICE. Don't the ice agents in the field/streets have a chain of command? If so, have ice leadership been adequately vetted to determine whether they can read a memo? I'm serious, this is not a joke, are these memos to CYA providing a measure of deniability, because I know these raids have more to do with fear and intimidation of the public and suppression of protest and less to do with rounding up the "worst" of the undocumented.
This is just another way of skirting around the issue of having insurrectionists in the ranks of Ice Agents!!What really got me was the Bear Spray!! One of the items used at the Jan. 6 Capitol Take-Over!! Trump put these folks in as High Paid Gangster Private army Gestapo types!! His own private army!!
We knew when he pardoned them that was the plan
With the blessing of the billionaire cartel Pepper!
Training is small part of problem, real problem is character. These thugs are not vetted, for all I know they could have felony records, or past excessive force issues. We're in the dark, where they want us.
Exactly PapaG. You’re spot on. No amount of training can change their horrible character.
They are who they are. We need to stand united against this evilness in our society.
I was thinking, maybe they were vetted and hired for exactly the monsters they are. They just need to go, now!
Dems need to demand a list of agents and go through their own vetting. No funding or pay until the vetting process is complete. Impeach Kristie. Release the Epstein files.
And yet, we are paying them.
As Heather Cox Richardson says, the Gestapo didn’t need more training. This line of thinking that training is part of the solution is ludicrous.
Actually they could use training on how to be a decent human being. They can start by emulating Alex Pretti
Too right...just some weak shite for Dem "centrists" to hang their hat on, and to avoid any mention of abolishing the goon squads.
I cannot watch this. My mind is not trained to watch violence but my heart is out every fucking weekend or during the day protesting with a bunch of like-minded folks. CALL YOUR SENATORS TOMORROW AND TELL THEM NO $$$ goes to DHS and/or ICE! Write emails too. They have to know we are upset and angry!
Thank you, for the article, Allison, and, Medias Touch, Taco Trump go copulate yourself, and Ice , you can’t alter, the execution, of this kind hearted gentleman, who was a fine nurse, for the Department of Veterans Affairs. Please subscribe to, The Breakdown, and, Medias Touch.
Hi Allison- ICE FU🧊🧊
all the training in the world isn't going to change a thing with these fascist thug murderers....the only thing that will solve this horror show is to disband, abolish, completely remove the DHS and all it's departments and impeach them all and tri them for their crimes....then develop and create a functioning honest and humane Dept of Immigration that works for people coming into the country.... for a path to citizenship.....ICE OUT !!! ....RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES !!!!
Bovine is referring to Alex as a suspect. These people are sick.
I donated to Cortez Masto and Rosen
They suck mostly -glad they are voting no though
Same with Fetterman -didn’t think his stroke would have caused him to morph into MAGA
These thugs have had no training and they are supposed to have training what happened this cannot be swept under the rug by this administration it is as just it is worse than the Epstein files this is a murder by this administration
Besides encouraging people to call their Representatives and tell them how we feel, maybe we could all send a note or call Governor Walz and tell him “we see him” and we have his back.
The loss this man has been through this past year is pretty heavy. The shootings injuring two and killing two of his State lawmakers by a deranged maga. The attacks by that orangepos on his son, his reputation, and his honor. The bogus fraud allegations and people driving by yelling R word at his son. Now the invasion of his cities, kidnappings and deaths of his citizens. Just a thought
There’s reporting that the gray coated (ha!) thug who disarmed Alex either accidentally or as a means of incitement, discharged the gun while he was pointing it down and running away. For health reasons, I can no longer watch these videos. But if someone wants to slow it down and see if there’s any evidence of discharge in the video, might be worth it?
Thanks Lana for putting that into words - I wanted to share the same interest after watching the video where the person mentioned that the first shot may have been from the gun removed from Alex by the guy in the grey coat, whether by accident or on purpose. I also wondered if the first shot may have been accidental because these agents seem so incompetent. It reminded me of a police shooting I heard outside my window in that there was a single shot followed by a volley or cascade of shots. Basically, four police officers shot and killed an officer duty police officer who was fighting with a homeless man wielding a hatchet. When they saw the officer with his weapon there was one shot from one officer, it seemed, and then they all unloaded it seemed. Anyway, it made me think of that, in the sense that one gunfire shot precipitated a volley of gunfire.
Sorry, hard for me to type on this small I13 phone. I meant off duty police officer was shot and killed by other police because they didn’t know he was a cop because he was a rookie who jumped out of his vehicle to break up a fight and didn’t have his badge around his neck so when police saw the gun they opened fire.
I would be surprised if it’s the first or even 12th time that an incident of police fire has unraveled exactly like that. I think I’ve heard of a few at least. It’s such a giant loss for nothing. For trying to help, in both circumstances. This one hit me hard. It helps to put it in words. Thanks for doing that too! ❤️🩹
Hmmm. Wonder if that was part of their plan…
At this point I wouldn’t put anything past them. But I am compelled to remember a phrase “never attribute to malice, that which can easily be attributed to incompetence.”.
Then what do we do when they’re malicious AND incompetent?😐
I hear you, sister. I can't watch either.
The amount of training they receive will mean nothing as long as the culture of "us against them" exists and is encouraged by Trump. As long as his spokespeople are willing to lie and obfuscate every rotten thing his private army does, they will continue to murder, knowing there will be no consequences. I find myself hoping the dems shut down the govt. again over funding these monsters!
They’re spokesLIARS.
They just want the $$$$.
Smoke and mirrors.
These terrorists will not be owned by anyone. They have been waiting for decades to do this shit. They won’t stop.
I need help understanding a few things about DHS and ICE. Don't the ice agents in the field/streets have a chain of command? If so, have ice leadership been adequately vetted to determine whether they can read a memo? I'm serious, this is not a joke, are these memos to CYA providing a measure of deniability, because I know these raids have more to do with fear and intimidation of the public and suppression of protest and less to do with rounding up the "worst" of the undocumented.