District Attorney Alvin Bragg has filed his opposition to Trump's claims of presidential immunity over evidence in the hush money election interference case pursuant to the SCOTUS immunity ruling.
You and Joyce Vance do us non-lawyers a great service by “making the case” in plain understandable language. If only our august Justices of the Federalist Society®️Supreme Court had your common sense! Thanks!
I admire you so because you can take a really super complicated issue like this and explain it so very well. Thank you.. I tried to explain this to someone this morning and I didn't quite nail it, but you sure did!
Honestly, the most well-argued points of law seem these days in great jeopardy whenever SCOTUS is asked to rule on them. I mean, is everybody absolutely sure that five Justices won't support the Aileen Cannon ruling on "unconstitutionality" of Jack Smith's appointment, and dismissal of the docs thieving case? And how confident - no matter how air-tight - are we that DC Bragg's response to tRump's "immunity" claims vis-à-vis his 34-count conviction will hold up?
"Rule of Law " is taking a real beating when it concerns tRump and tRump alone, and I for one hold my breath when appeals finally reach SCOTUS and what the far-right judges say during the hearings.
To try to apply consistency and logic to SCOTUS decisions is a mug's game, and we're in uncharted territory here...hope for the best but expect the worst, no more and no less.
The stark contrast to what Chief Justice Roberts wrote this year on the subject of Presidential Immunity to what he wrote in '20 during the investigative stage of this NY case, is what I hope Judge Merchan points to as being 'the ruling of the Court at the time of these proceedings.'
See Trump v. Vance, No. 19-635 (July 9, 2020) (recognizing that the “public has a right to every man’s evidence” ).
Wonderful breakdown Allison, thank you. I was a bit concerned that some shenanigans might have resulted in TFG's appeal being upheld, and him being able to announce in October that he was 'not a convicted felon after all' just in time for the election. Phew!
How is it that we the people cannot weigh in on a topic as fundamental as presidential immunity? I suspect 100’s of millions of American citizens agree with N.Y. Attorney General Barge. Mr. Bragg should not have to fight back against a Supreme Court gone rogue by himself. When our justice system decides to omit accountability as one of its foundations, I suspect vigilantism is not unforseable. I have long advocated for a sort of citizen iniative or referendum process much like that practiced in many states. If such a system existed at the national level we could put the question onto a national ballot and if as a people we decide a president can be both prosecuted and be convicted while in or out of office it should over-ride any decisions made by any one or even by all three branches of government. This is a nation whose constitution empowers “we the people.” We must not sit by idly while a handful of the powerful or influential act without deference to our expressed wishes. We need to rally behind Attorney Bragg.
I think the process for making amendments to the Constitution needs to be expanded. I like the idea of creating a procedure for Citizen Constitutional Amendments. Perhaps a national referendum conducted in all 50 states would be a way to break the impasse we have due to to partisanship and money influenced politics. If the majority of citizens, and a majority of states vote to abolish presidential immunity, it should become a constitutional amendment. We should as citizens be able to vote and override Supreme Court decisions, and we should as citizens have the power to impeach politicians and Supreme Court justices.
Rulings concerning interpretation of any Constitution can be overturned. While the constitution is not clay and cannot be shaped to fit a narrative, it can be amended. Plan on the overturning of this decision right after Trump loses the election, and plan for the long game.
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Yawn; repetitive word salad with focus on a new level of minutia. I wish you believers in this system were as focused on child trafficking, drug addiction, and the decline of society as you are on the left/right idiocy.
You and Joyce Vance do us non-lawyers a great service by “making the case” in plain understandable language. If only our august Justices of the Federalist Society®️Supreme Court had your common sense! Thanks!
I'm a non-lawyer! But I speak fluent lawyer, so that helps.
I guess you fooled me….
Make your case then; Lewis already explained he's a non-lawyer so why should he "realize" your point? Why are they losing arguments?
I admire you so because you can take a really super complicated issue like this and explain it so very well. Thank you.. I tried to explain this to someone this morning and I didn't quite nail it, but you sure did!
I wish we were immune from Trump and his family/sychophants.
Great statement. I’m with you on that.
Honestly, the most well-argued points of law seem these days in great jeopardy whenever SCOTUS is asked to rule on them. I mean, is everybody absolutely sure that five Justices won't support the Aileen Cannon ruling on "unconstitutionality" of Jack Smith's appointment, and dismissal of the docs thieving case? And how confident - no matter how air-tight - are we that DC Bragg's response to tRump's "immunity" claims vis-à-vis his 34-count conviction will hold up?
"Rule of Law " is taking a real beating when it concerns tRump and tRump alone, and I for one hold my breath when appeals finally reach SCOTUS and what the far-right judges say during the hearings.
To try to apply consistency and logic to SCOTUS decisions is a mug's game, and we're in uncharted territory here...hope for the best but expect the worst, no more and no less.
The stark contrast to what Chief Justice Roberts wrote this year on the subject of Presidential Immunity to what he wrote in '20 during the investigative stage of this NY case, is what I hope Judge Merchan points to as being 'the ruling of the Court at the time of these proceedings.'
See Trump v. Vance, No. 19-635 (July 9, 2020) (recognizing that the “public has a right to every man’s evidence” ).
Even the kooky old fellow down the block has a soap box upon which to wax eloquent regarding “points of law”.
Lol
What a great country, eh?
Figure of speech, mate, just a figure of speech.
Thank you Well done.
Another abuse of process by Trump and his lawyers.
Wonderful breakdown Allison, thank you. I was a bit concerned that some shenanigans might have resulted in TFG's appeal being upheld, and him being able to announce in October that he was 'not a convicted felon after all' just in time for the election. Phew!
And even if Hope Hicks is dealing with a campaign issue, that might be a Hatch Act violation…
Thank you for such understandable answers to hard legal questions. I have learned so much and appreciate you.
How is it that we the people cannot weigh in on a topic as fundamental as presidential immunity? I suspect 100’s of millions of American citizens agree with N.Y. Attorney General Barge. Mr. Bragg should not have to fight back against a Supreme Court gone rogue by himself. When our justice system decides to omit accountability as one of its foundations, I suspect vigilantism is not unforseable. I have long advocated for a sort of citizen iniative or referendum process much like that practiced in many states. If such a system existed at the national level we could put the question onto a national ballot and if as a people we decide a president can be both prosecuted and be convicted while in or out of office it should over-ride any decisions made by any one or even by all three branches of government. This is a nation whose constitution empowers “we the people.” We must not sit by idly while a handful of the powerful or influential act without deference to our expressed wishes. We need to rally behind Attorney Bragg.
I think the process for making amendments to the Constitution needs to be expanded. I like the idea of creating a procedure for Citizen Constitutional Amendments. Perhaps a national referendum conducted in all 50 states would be a way to break the impasse we have due to to partisanship and money influenced politics. If the majority of citizens, and a majority of states vote to abolish presidential immunity, it should become a constitutional amendment. We should as citizens be able to vote and override Supreme Court decisions, and we should as citizens have the power to impeach politicians and Supreme Court justices.
You and Pete called it right again!
Very nice. Thank you.
Rulings concerning interpretation of any Constitution can be overturned. While the constitution is not clay and cannot be shaped to fit a narrative, it can be amended. Plan on the overturning of this decision right after Trump loses the election, and plan for the long game.
10% pts+ 4 #Harris2024🗝️@POTUS do your BFD Const’l “Take Care” DUTY now 2 #MakeTheCallJoe 1☎️2 Archivist 2 #PublishTheERA per 1USC§106b.Can’t #CodifyRoe w/o ERA! Gift Res for ORGS!👇🏽
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My money is on Mr. Bragg.
Yawn; repetitive word salad with focus on a new level of minutia. I wish you believers in this system were as focused on child trafficking, drug addiction, and the decline of society as you are on the left/right idiocy.
Right?